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  • #73269
    How people perceive disability benefits

    Interesting and insightful post on the “Where’s the Benefit?” blog today about the damaging effects of how people perceive disability benefits.

    “I’ve been thinking about the widespread perception that getting disability benefits is easy – and the damage this causes.”

    “First, some background. I don’t know how many people believe what they read in papers like The Sun, whose ‘shop a scrounger’ campaign complains about people who ‘claim to be sick when they are perfectly capable of work’, or the Daily Mail, which is happy to conclude that anyone who fails the work capability assessment is a scrounger.”

    Read the full blog post…

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    #77013
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Hmmm ….

    I think for those who have no person in their family/friends with an affliction, they consider the ‘sick’ to be the “I got back ache” types of complaints, the non-visible disability, where they see them dancing about or trotting down the High Street, or participating in a charity run, etc, many do not realise the cancer victim, the parkinson riddled, the muscle diseased, the mentally challenged, the paraplegic are also with in the same category.

    Odd conversations I have had with people when they complain about people getting this free money, when I say ‘But I get that”, usually halts the flow and they say “But it is meant for you”.

    Is it the condition, the grounds on which the money is awarded that causes the disgruntlement?

    Where ever the line is drawn some one in genuine need will fall the wrong side of it :cry: [probably me]

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    #77014
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    We live in an age where people are not encouraged to stop and think things through let alone think for themselves. It’s easy to believe what someone else says without question and go with the flow; that’s how urban myths come into being.

    Newspapers don’t care about the truth, they care about sales figures and if campaigns sell papers that’s what they’ll do, the title might be shop a pedophile or scrounger or illegal immigrant, it doesn’t matter to them. If innocent people get hurt along the way that’s just unfortunate but justified by the increase in the sales.

    Politicians are equally disinterested, everything is expedient for them. The sound-bite was a god-send, you don’t have to say anything clever anymore, just sound like you’re saying something clever. It’s votes that keep politicians in their seats, not telling the truth, in fact that could just lead to an early exit, from the party most definitely!

    Unfortunately there also exists a group of people who are also looking for an easy ride and if playing the disability card is seen as lucrative then that’s what they’ll do. I suppose that we all know, or at least know of, someone who claims to be disabled when in fact they are probably just overweight. You can see them tootling along in their electric scooters. There aothers of course, some more subtle too, but they merge in with the real disabled people. That’s the sad truth. Like the politicians and the newspaper editors they don’t care as long as they are getting their cut. It doesn’t matter that someone with a slow debilitating condition is getting demonised because of their action, as long as they can continue to claim a disability benefit without actually being a genuine case they will continue never mind the damage it might do to others in the long run.

    And there’s the rub. The system is flawed, it always has been. However, rather than mend something broken the politicians want to bolt something extra on top, to make life that little bit more difficult by failing to fix what so many people know is wrong. It’s far easier to blame those claiming disability benefits – all the claimants – than to do the real work at the beginning of the claim and assess people fairly, probably because they’ve cut so many civil service jobs that they don’t have enough staff left to do a proper job anymore. If they can’t do the job properly at the beginning when a claim is first made how are they going to do it properly further down the line at a review stage?

    The British public generally don’t like the disabled. They prefer them to be stiff upper lipped about their problems, suffering little angels who just get on with it in the background and don’t intrude too much into daily life. I sometimes get the impression that they would be happy for us to be neither seen nor heard. Unfortunately many disabled people, probably for their own personal reason, oblige them. Then again, if a disabled person starts complaining how often are they painted as bitter and twisted like Richard III?

    That’s the problem with the disabled, they’re not photogenic, they’re not media friendly, they’re termed with a negative and they always seem to have something to compain about (with me it’s my Myotonia Congenita and Spina Bifida Occulta)! I remember a boss from a few years ago once telling me that he had a problem working with disabled people, I agreed with him, he did have a problem. Unfortunately experience has taught me that he was far from alone.

    Is it ever going to be possible to present the disabled in a positive light?

    I wonder how many para-olympians receive disability benefits?

    (Rant over!) :evil:

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    #77015
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Here Here Tyger *applaud* whole heartedly agree with your post.

    Once had a Line Manager take me to one side and say to me that I had opened her eyes to working with the disabled, how she had a complete and utter misconception and apologised if she had ever been patronizing … don’t ask how I managed to maintain a profesional face, I think it was the shock that helped!

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    #77016
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    i am in agreement with you both, it is a double edged sword. DLA is provided as a way of helping to support the disabled in our community but, ignorrant people dont see it that way.
    i wish i could go back to work and not feel so under a microscope all the time.
    people always stare when i pull up in the disabled parking and whip out a blue badge, its as though you should only park there if you are over 60 and smoke like a chimney. or as michael mcintyre put it “roll out of the car door on the floor and crawl into the shops on your hands and knees” lol :) (might try that one day for a laugh, i get ssooo bored)
    sorry but i get it so often it sometimes drives me up the wall. i am going to get a banner printed on my motability vehicle saying ” this driver sufferers with muscular dystrophy, please give way”. wonder what sort of responses that will evoke? hmmm ??
    :lol:

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    #77017
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    I have to admit that since i started using my super cool elbow crutch http://www.chicaidcrutches.co.uk/CONTENT-344-Coloured%20Crutches i feel much more at ease in public. Kind of like i am now legitimate! :o
    I am looking forward to the day i get my motability scooter, then i will even be able to take the paper bag off my head… ;)

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    #77018
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    @j4m3s wrote:

    i am going to get a banner printed on my motability vehicle saying ” this driver sufferers with muscular dystrophy, please give way”. wonder what sort of responses that will evoke? hmmm ??
    :lol:

    Well, seeing as it is spelt correctly, not a lot :lol:

    One day at a supermarket car park when a passenger in the neighbouring car had intently watched me slowly walk to my car, lift the carriers which were obviously very lightly packed onto the back seat, take the trolley back to the store, and incredibly slowly walk back to the car, as I was about to park my butt on the seat, they wound down their window and remarked “These spaces are for the disabled you know” ….. now I am easily miffed by blatant stupidity, I smiled and in my ultra-polite voice replied “I do aplogise, I didn’t get cured when I hit puberty” and continued on my way.

    Another time when a old wrinkly suitably miffed me I remarked “Disability is not a geriatric right”

    :lol:

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    #77019
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    :lol: y

    “I do aplogise, I didn’t get cured when I hit puberty”

    Your quips should be bumper stickers

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    #77020
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    I don’t suppose the media will be launching a campaign against the cashpoint cripples who park in disabled bays just because its’ close to the ATM?

    That would be something I’d support! :twisted:

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    #77021
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    My local Asda is notorius for that, a couple of years back I went in and complained and got told……wait for it your gonna love this……… “the disabled bays are provided as a courtesy, not a right” :shock: :o

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    #77022
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Oh I’m not surprised, so much in life is provided as a courtesy, we have very few rights.

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    #77023
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    ASDA … don’t get me started ….. :evil: :evil: :evil:

    Oh all right then.

    This happened before the days of chip and pin. My able bodied bud and I used to frequent a supermarket [no prizes for guessing which one] on a reasonably regular basis and one day we had amassed a trolley load of grocery, we rolled upto the wide aisle till and my bud started unloading the goodies onto the belt and as she was doing so we were chatting merrily. The customer in front had completed their tranacion and the check-out operative beamed a smile said hello to us both making good eye contact [customer services day courses attendee I suspect]. We were chatting altogether as the things were scanned the usual small talk. Then came the time to pay.

    I handed over the debit card, which the operative swiped and gave back to me and as we waited for the long receipt to print out a small clipboard was found and a pen procured – I was on the verge of being mildly impressed.

    There was a moment of hesitation and silence before the operative looked at my able-bodied bud and remarked “Does she sign?”

    DOES SHE SIGN?? I can do a hell of a lot more than ‘sign’, my bud and I were dumb founded and just looked at each other agog before bursting out laughing. The bemussed operative was now looking perplexed. It was definitely one of those “I can’t believe they said that” moments. :roll:

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    #77024
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    @amgmod wrote:

    @j4m3s wrote:

    i am going to get a banner printed on my motability vehicle saying ” this driver sufferers with muscular dystrophy, please give way”. wonder what sort of responses that will evoke? hmmm ??
    :lol:

    Well, seeing as it is spelt correctly, not a lot :lol:

    One day at a supermarket car park when a passenger in the neighbouring car had intently watched me slowly walk to my car, lift the carriers which were obviously very lightly packed onto the back seat, take the trolley back to the store, and incredibly slowly walk back to the car, as I was about to park my butt on the seat, they wound down their window and remarked “These spaces are for the disabled you know” ….. now I am easily miffed by blatant stupidity, I smiled and in my ultra-polite voice replied “I do aplogise, I didn’t get cured when I hit puberty” and continued on my way.

    Another time when a old wrinkly suitably miffed me I remarked “Disability is not a geriatric right”

    :lol:

    lol im a bit like that myself. i will only respond if needs be. :)

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    #77025
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Here’s a curious observation.

    I have an Ilizarov frame attached to my leg and foot. For the first 3 months I had to use a wheelchair and yes, I got generally ignored as the vegetable in the chair.

    On Tuesday night I went to the football on my crutches. The Ilizaroc drew many a glance and quite a few people asked me about it, which I don’t mind as I’m a chatty bloke. It was my son who pointed out, however, that when I used the wheelchair no one asked about the frame at all!

    So being verticle obviously makes a difference! :o

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    #77026
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Tyger Tyger – that is a true classic.

    As a wheelie, I have noticed that the true able bodied only notice the six inches above and below their eye line, hence why I get clumpd in the face with back-packs and oversized handbags and in crowds hurried individuals seem to fall over me as they manoeuvre into what they see as a hole in the crowd but which is actually occupied by me!

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    #77027
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    I couldn’t agree more. People are generally totally oblivious to what is going on around them. They stop right in front of you or walk across you and then when you nearly run them down it’s your fault. We’ve noticed that if we are out and I’m in my wheelchair and my husband had got his dark coloured fleece on people would rather walk straight at us than get out of our way but if he’s got his bright red fleece on they are more likely to move.

    I’m thinking of getting a hooter for my chair LOL

    Val

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    #77028
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    @valerie wrote:

    I’m thinking of getting a hooter for my chair LOL

    Air-horns!! :lol:

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    #77029
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    I don’t move for them. I drive in a straight line and people have to move 8-) If they are too ignorant, too stupid or just plain can’t be bothered to watch were they are going then they get run over :lol: As I’m getting older my tolorence for the general public is ebbing away (so is my patience!)

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    #77030
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    I still wobble about with an elbow crutch and i am forever being barged into in shopping centres etc by people who refuse to walk around me. Common sense would tell them that i will struggle to change direction quickly but when did common sense apply to most out there?
    Since i had my driving licence taken off me i have been reliant on buses and the oldies get really upset if they come on the bus and see me sat in one of the single seats! Not my fault i need the room as i can’t keep my legs shut! :o (no comment).
    I am actually looking forward to my progression to a motability scooter as i imagine it will be alot less hard work that trying to balance and walk in my feeble Long John Silver impersonation. I have thought about getting a parrot and an eye patch just for a laugh but it would probably get me sectioned into the bargain! ;)
    Btw, are there any cool scooters out there that i should consider? I already use a designer crutch and i don’t want to go about in a granny mobile.

    Ranald

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    #77031
    Re: How people perceive disability benefits

    Here’s the latest installment, this time it’s the Daily Mail reporting on figures from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP). You just need to read the headline to know where this one’s going.

    75% of incapacity claimants are fit to work: Tough new benefits test weeds out the workshy

    Read the full article

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