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  • #87591
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    i think there official title is care advisor. :D

    stefan

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    #87579
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    I have never spoken to a care advisor, they are as rare as hen’s teeth i believe.

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    #87592
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    @ranald wrote:

    I have never spoken to a care advisor, they are as rare as hen’s teeth i believe.

    Sadly yes, there is one based in Glasgow and another in Edinburgh – might be worth an email or phone call though.

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    #87593
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    Good News for those of you on his thread awaiting the result of your ESA assessment.

    The DWP on the 30th April released their latest official statistics.

    This shows that more people are now being put into the support group and
    receiving the unlimited support.

    35 % are now going into the support group and 37% into the WRAG and only
    27% Fit for Work.

    The numbers qualifying for the Support Group were 7 % in the first year, 22 % in the
    second year and 35 % now. Amazing difference and reflect the changes forced on the DWP
    by the independent Harrington reviews. Even better is that year three of Harrington
    has now been implemented but is not included in these figures, so current people
    are getting much fairer treatment.

    http://statistics.dwp.gov.uk/asd/workingage/esa_wca/esa_wca_summary_apr13.pdf

    By definition though many people in years one and two will be in the wrong group.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #87594
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    Isn’t it nice to be proved right :) We all knew the criteria was wrong and the system dangerously flawed, and there is the proof.

    It is terriblefor the first two year-ers tey should reapply or ask to be assessed and if they are placed into a higher group, sue Atos for negligence.

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    #87595
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    @taungfox wrote:

    Good News for those of you on his thread awaiting the result of your ESA assessment.

    The DWP on the 30th April released their latest official statistics.

    More official figures released on 9th May 2013.

    Very interesting statistics on Fraud and Error :-

    Fraud and Error together remain the same at 2.1 %. As Fraud also remains at 0.7 % this means
    error is 1.4 %.

    Strange we are not paying ATOS a hundred million pounds a year to go in and sort out out
    all the Error at the DWP ?

    http://statistics.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd2/index.php?page=fraud_error

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #87596
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    Actually having a margin for human error of only 1.4% is damn good, the figues for the financial difference between the two period will of course increase, benefits increase each year and this figure is not just ESA or DLA/PIP it is across the whole benefit system, taking in Child Benefits, Pensions and Pension Credit, JSA and the miriad of benefits paid.

    So from every single new claim or change of claim [which for those working and claiming means a change every week] for every single benefit payable 3 out of 200 will result in overpayment, considering the volume and specificy of the rules and regs [and from personal experience] that is not too shabby.

    Yes the £sd of those errors sounds shocking £3.5 BILLION, but that is the 1.4%, my calculator blew a fuse when I tried to work out the 100% …… and if Atos were totally in charge that margin of error would quadruple over night.

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    #87597
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    morning fellow disabled peeps. everybody ok I hope. :D . disability rights and we are Spartacus are asking people to look at the new consultation for the mobility component for pip. please could everybody take a look and give their opinions to the 2 groups, because the consultation closes in about 6wks.
    thanks .
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208334/pip-mobility-consultation.pdf

    stefan

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    #87598
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    I am going to nw thread this Stef – see if we can get oodles of peeps to chip in :)

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    #87599
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    thanks amy. sorry for the repeat posting of it but I thought it had slipped down the forums somewhere :yes:

    stefan

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    #87600
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    hi peeps. some more from we are Spartacus on the pip consult. they’ve added more info and a comment area for people. please, please, please look at it and voice your concerns. thanks.

    http://wearespartacus.org.uk/government-publishes-pip-consultation-document/

    stefan

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    #87601
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    Good News for those of you on his thread awaiting the result of your ESA assessment.

    The DWP on the 23th July released their latest official statistics.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-statistics-on-reassessments-of-incapacity-benefits-july-2013

    Completed IB to ESA reassessments in the period from
    September 2012 to November 2012 shows:

    • 77 per cent of claimants were entitled to ESA. Within this –
    o 36 per cent of claimants were placed in the WRAG, and
    o 41 per cent of claimants were placed in the SG; and
    • 23 per cent of claimants were assessed as FFW.

    This is amazing. In year one only 7 % were in the Support Group and receiving “unlimited support”.
    Now it is 41 % and will rise further as the Harrington year three review is not included in this.

    Again, people re-assessed in year one are owed a severe apology and are presumably the reason
    for the large backlog of appeals.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #87602
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    @taungfox wrote:


    Again, people re-assessed in year one are owed a severe apology …

    I think we’re all owed an apology for the misguided, vicious and ideologically-driven way that this government has gone about its “reforms” of the system, and the levels of stress that it has caused. I predict we’re unlikely to get such an apology.

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    #87603
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    @taungfox wrote:

    Completed IB to ESA reassessments in the period from
    September 2012 to November 2012 shows:

    • 77 per cent of claimants were entitled to ESA. Within this –
    o 36 per cent of claimants were placed in the WRAG, and
    o 41 per cent of claimants were placed in the SG; and
    • 23 per cent of claimants were assessed as FFW.

    Wow a massive 23% added to the job que. So that is 23% who were receving the incorrect benefit. Did the benefit saving of those 23% cover the costs of reassessing the 100%, and Atos’s bonus, the fat-cats golden handshake, the lobbyists bar tab and the expert consultants expenses.

    Still, doesn’t do anything to improve chances, create opportunities, for people to find fair-paying work.

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    #87604
    Re: Dreaded ESA….

    oh look who’s been told that they’re not doing there job correctly. :roll:
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/533e0ec2-f2d5-11e2-802f-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2ZysxvZq3

    stefan

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