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  • #74478
    Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    having been living with back and leg pain for more than a year now I was refered for MRI..

    that was fine, waited, waited and waited some more….got a call last week saying that I cant have an MRI due to the vent..

    Has anyone else on vent had an MRI :?: I had a CAT SCAN no problem as its only the tube that is in the machine with me.

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    #86039
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    Wonder if it is anything to do with the magnetics of an MRI [magnetic responce imaging] that is causing the issue, whether the mri would interfer with your vent or the vent get magnatised to the machinery and malfunction. Curious …

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    #86040
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    Hi,
    MRI uses very strong magnets and your ventilator will have metal in it so it’s likely it would be pulled towards the magnetic field. I was told to leave my walking stick outside the MRI room as it may have a metal tip on it and it could be pulled into the scanner.
    Michael

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    #86041
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    :o :o WHAT about the nuts n bolts inside me back.

    does a cat scan not use magnets

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    #86043
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    Hi,
    Cat scan doesn’t use magnets. It uses x ray and so is safe if you have metal in your body.
    Michael

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    #86042
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    @catatude wrote:

    :o :o WHAT about the nuts n bolts inside me back.

    does a cat scan not use magnets

    Stoopid question from me – I assume the hospital know you have nuts and bolts in you [which are usually made of non magnetic materials]

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    #86044
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    I did a quick look up (I did a degree in medical electronics which covered use of MRI devices) of ye olde books to check.

    MRI is quite swish – it uses magnets and radio frequencies to change the direction your cell molecules point! Each cell has some liquid in it (water, fat etc) and different cells all have unique ways their directions point to. These changes then make up MRI pictures – as if you opened up a person and took a look! CT (x rays) are great for hard parts of the body like bones – but liquid and squishy parts show up best on an MRI… especially if a dye is injected.

    anyway… all sorts of things affect the scan – static fields, radio (RF) fields and magnetic fields that are produced can damage equipment like vents. At one time you were not even allowed to let in a patients who had washed their hair recently as magnetic particles in the shampoo broke the machines. Patients who have shrapnel in them can have it fly out if magnetised!

    The solution is a vent that is MRI safe – such things exist because the scans are needed by very ill people and the likes of you and me. Such a vent does not have microprocessors / chips and parts (ferromagnetic) which would stop working or break when placed within a magnet.

    If an MRI scan is the what you need then you should ask to have it at a hospital equipped with an MRI vent that can use your settings. I would have though every hospital with a&e or intensive care would have this standard.

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    #86045
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    Thanks Criptic

    great info. wil ask the NIV nurses if they can help co arranage something.

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    #86046
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    I have often wondered about this, now I know :)

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    #86047
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    @criptic wrote:

    If an MRI scan is the what you need then you should ask to have it at a hospital equipped with an MRI vent that can use your settings. I would have though every hospital with a&e or intensive care would have this standard.

    Now you know where thunking like that will get you :roll:

    Very interesting info Crip, you are a mind of useful knowledge :ugeek:

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    #86048
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    lol after 3 years of study I finally get to use the info – I guess it sort of came in useful eventually :lol: Never did quite make the bionic body – perhaps a little hopeful for a first degree project… ! I’ll stick to knickers.

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    #86049
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    @criptic wrote:

    lol after 3 years of study I finally get to use the info – I guess it sort of came in useful eventually :lol: Never did quite make the bionic body – perhaps a little hopeful for a first degree project… ! I’ll stick to knickers.

    :lol: :lol: got this image now of bionic style knickers like the wrong trousers from Wallace n Grommit.. well hay ho we all got the wrong genes.

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    #86050
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    @catatude wrote:

    @criptic wrote:

    lol after 3 years of study I finally get to use the info – I guess it sort of came in useful eventually :lol: Never did quite make the bionic body – perhaps a little hopeful for a first degree project… ! I’ll stick to knickers.

    :lol: :lol: got this image now of bionic style knickers like the wrong trousers from Wallace n Grommit.. well hay ho we all got the wrong genes.

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    #86051
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    #86052
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    Any development on the MRI Cat?

    Hope you got my PM re the NIV nurses. Sure Alison & Co may be able to sort something for you.

    Good luck

    Gill

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    #86053
    Re: Bad Back MRI and the bipap vent

    @miracle77 wrote:

    Any development on the MRI Cat?

    Hope you got my PM re the NIV nurses. Sure Alison & Co may be able to sort something for you.

    Good luck

    Gill

    hiya,, no news with MRI. will try phoning again.

    thanks for PM with vent nurses new numbers. think thats them starting up the Thursday appointments at Southern G.. good local in the hospital.

    thanks cat

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