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  • #73263
    "We disabled people aren’t shirkers"

    Interesting article here from Alice Maynard who is the chair of Scope and the founder and managing director of Future Inclusion Ltd.

    “I am one of the lucky ones. I have a good education, and I run my own business. Yet every day the fact that I am a disabled person means that I am stereotyped and have assumptions made about me. People will often speak to my personal assistant about me, rather than to me, and I need to work twice as hard to prove that I am capable…”

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    mesamb
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    #76987
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    “On Monday in Burnley and Aberdeen the government begins trialling its plans to reassess all those claiming incapacity benefits, using the work capability assessment – a test that asks questions such as, “Can you turn a tap on?” (to which my answer would be: “It depends on the tap”)”.

    Do they really ask questions like that :?

    Vicki
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    #76988
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    Okay – question 1 should be – Could you get yourself to your place of work?

    My answer would be ….. by crawling naked trailing human detritus behind me, how’s that with ‘elf n safety’ and corporate identity?

    [side note: nearly hit submit before I noticed I had typed ‘palace’ instead of place :lol: ]

    “The Disabled” is a very broad soft target, like making all those between 16 and 18 attend training courses and college courses for all those empty job space with eager employers just a lining on up ready to head hunt the next McDonald’s manager of the month :roll:

    Sorry – am I a caustic mood, esp with these ‘erberts

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    #76989
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    I’ve had another thought ….. …..

    What about sick absence, will this new proposed system take that into considertion? The situation I feel foul of was that due to bouts of fatigue resulting in a day or two off, frequently catching the office coughs, colds, bugs etc causing another day or two off, then the rigours of appointments hither and yonder unable to be made out of office hours I was perpetually being hauled into a meeting to face the supervisor, office boss, HR Rep being bombarded with the question of why I was off ill so often and what could be done about it and no I could not use my holiday time.

    In a 6 month period the max allowed was 6 days 8 in 12 months … I was way over that through no fault of my own, not of my doing. Employers want to employ a competent person who will be there to do the job they are paid to do, they do not want to pay someone who then goes sick and have to pay another someone to do the same job.

    I can see ‘ill’ people being caught in this never ending circle of – get job – too many sickness periods – loose job – get benefit – fail assessment deemed capable of work – try and find job [with poor attendance reference] – get job ……. rinse and repeat!

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    #76990
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    What about those that employ carers to enable them to work, what happens if you can’t get to work because said carer hasn’t turned up to get you up or drive you to work!!

    Theres so many variables to take into consideration not just if someone can work.

    Vicki
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    #76991
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    AMG and Vicki, you both raise excellent points. Has all of this been thought through by the policy makers I wonder? :?

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    #76992
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    @sar78 wrote:

    AMG and Vicki, you both raise excellent points. Has all of this been thought through by the policy makers I wonder? :?

    Policy makers don’t think, they react!

    I work for the government which has lots of lovely policies for disabled people, I still successfully brought a case against them for discrimination on the grounds of disability though!

    Anyone who thinks being disabled and receiving DLA is an easy ride should try a day in my body :twisted:

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    #76993
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    @tygertyger wrote:

    Anyone who thinks being disabled and receiving DLA is an easy ride should try a day in my body :twisted:

    Think they’d do anything so near to discovering reality and truth!!! Wash your mouth out young man! :lol:

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    #76994
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    We’re assumming policy makers have a brain ;)

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    #76995
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    @amgmod wrote:

    @tygertyger wrote:

    Anyone who thinks being disabled and receiving DLA is an easy ride should try a day in my body :twisted:

    Think they’d do anything so near to discovering reality and truth!!! Wash your mouth out young man! :lol:

    :lol:

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    #76996
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    Even my family don’t believe me when i tell them about the WCA conducted by Atos Origin. I have just had my successful younger brother on the phone ranting about a Panorama programme depicting all the “scroungers”.
    I tried unsuccessfully to point out the current “attack the disabled” climate being perpetrated by the right wing media atm but it fell on deaf ears, we are all being tarred with the same brush and don’t let us forget it!
    It is worth remembeing that DLA fraud is only at about 0.5% and IB at about 1%, tell that to the frothing at the mouth brigade though and you are passing wind in a hurricane to put it politely…

    Ranald

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    #76997
    Re: “We disabled people aren’t shirkers”

    @ranald wrote:

    It is worth remembeing that DLA fraud is only at about 0.5% and IB at about 1%, tell that to the frothing at the mouth brigade though and you are passing wind in a hurricane to put it politely…

    A few years ago a new points system was introduced at Job Centers, I never fully understood its ramifications as I was not working in that specific area. Anyway each job center had to reach a certain number of points each month/quarter/year, getting a 16-18 year old into a job or training was 1 point, a single parent was 5 points, a disabled person 20 points, hence the louts were left to their drinking and the ‘inable’ were hounded, harrassed and haulled frequently – that system soon went out the window when a few banded together and brandished words like “Harrassement” and “Discrimination” and “Human Rights Court”.

    We are the easy target, but they are finding we bite back!

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