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    The Nation's Shame

    The Nation’s Shame

    The UK supported the development of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (the Convention) & was among the first countries to sign it in 2007.

    The convention (UNCRPD) is aligned with the UK approach to disability equality which focuses on inclusion & mainstreaming, with additional support provided as necessary, & on involving disabled people in making the decisions that affect their lives.

    So proud are the government of this fact, they refer to it on a government website (please refer to here https://www.gov.uk/rights-disabled-person/overview) advising you of your rights as a disabled person.

    The government claims as a disabled person, you have rights to protect you from discrimination. It cites the Equality Act 2010 (please refer to here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance) & the UNCRPD (please refer to here http://www.un.org/disabilities/convention/conventionfull.shtml) will help to enforce, protect & promote your rights.

    So, it is surprising to find last week that the UK, as a result of being the first member to be investigated by a United Nations committee for not fulfilling the terms of the UNCRPD, have been found guilty of grave & systematic violations of the rights of disabled people as a direct result of austerity policies introduced into welfare & social care by the UK government aimed at reducing public spending since 2010, an inquiry has concluded.

    The highly critical report (please refer to here http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/treatybodyexternal/Download.aspx?symbolno=CRPD%2fC%2f15%2fR.2%2fRev.1&Lang=en), published in Geneva on Monday 7th November 2016, says a range of measures including controversial cuts to disability benefits, social care budgets & the introduction of the bedroom tax, have disproportionately & adversely affected the rights of disabled people to live independently, to work & achieve an adequate standard of living.

    It makes 11 recommendations, including calling on the UK government to carry out a study of the cumulative impact of all spending cuts on disabled people & to ensure the human rights of disabled people are upheld.

    In response, the government stated it “did not plan to follow up on any of the recommendations”.

    Isn’t this to our nation’s shame?

    In light of this, why hasn’t there been public outcry? Why has it not been plastered across our television screens constantly? Why haven’t hordes of disgruntled & angry citizens waving placards not taken to the streets en masse in protest at the treatment of one of the proudest but, flawed sections of society?

    Because it’s been another stroke of luck for the government that in the same week this damning report was published, the Americans voted for a misogynist, racist to be their president & Mondelez International changed the size of bloody Toblerone!

    I will not let the human rights abuses this government are guilty of go unnoticed or unchallenged.

    Surely, everyone knows of at least one person that relies on the safety net of social security? A fallen hero perhaps, injured in the line of duty. Somebody injured in an accident. A cancer sufferer or someone suffering from some equally debilitating condition that limits their ability to live, work or function ‘normally’. Or some poor soul living in the invisible prison of a tortured mind.

    It may be congenital; it may be something that they’ve contracted, it may be through no fault of their own but, they are ill & rely on support from the tax payer in order to survive.

    Why aren’t the people uprising & protesting in disgust at our nation’s shame through fear one day; it may be them. One day, they too may rely on the same safety net being pulled from under those that can’t fight for themselves.

    I am shocked & saddened at the apathetic reaction to this report by the public. This is your money, not the governments, despite what they might think. It’s your money that you work damn hard for that is purposely being withheld or wasted by the very government department, the Department of Work & Pensions (DWP), charged with protecting the less fortunate.

    Until now the welfare state has, without question, stepped in & declared that ‘as we live in a compassionate, caring & civilised country, the state will protect you from poverty’. Far from being a lifestyle choice, welfare is all too often a struggle for survival. Benefits are the buffer between people & penury.

    Welfare benefits & social care are critical in supporting disabled people to live as active members of the community & short term savings are being favoured over the dignity & independence of people with disabilities up & down the UK.

    Since 2010 every aspect of our support has been reduced, abolished or failed, costing the taxpayer & costing lives. The government, rather than increasing life chances for disabled people, are cutting the financial life lines that are designed to help them meet the extra costs they face. Disabled people are struggling to make ends meet & are twice as likely to be living in poverty as non-disabled people.

    So, I ask again, why isn’t there mass protestation at the loss of liberty, equality, quality of life & indeed loss of life?

    The governments approach to welfare & the way they justify the removal of it seems to be based on some key assumptions. The assumption that benefit claimants, be they unemployed, sick, disabled or working poor are likely to be either workshy, dishonest, unmotivated, undisciplined or all of the above.

    This is the way we’re portrayed by the government & their torch bearers in the media. Perpetuating negative stereotypes, culminating in a rise year on year in disabled hate crimes.

    Hate crimes recorded by police against the disabled have risen to 3,629 in 2015-16 compared to 1,748 in 2011. Indeed, it’s a widely-held view by campaigners that the true scale of the problem will never be known as many cases go unreported.

    Glen Owen of The Daily Mail attempts to undermine the findings & seriousness of the UN report (please refer to here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3909276/Controversial-task-force-slams-Britain-s-welfare-cuts-says-disabled-people-unfairly-bearing-brunt.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490) & credibility of one of its authors in a new low for journalism. Even for the hate filled Daily Mail.

    Mr Owen makes a tawdry reference to a suggestion Stig Langvad once put to the Danish government in his attempts to discredit Mr Langvad.

    It really doesn’t matter because the Mail’s reporting of the story loses all credibility when referring to an ‘anonymous’ Whitehall source (how very convenient they wished to remain nameless) that claims “This committee has chosen the UK for its first report & we fear they are trying to make a name for themselves.”

    There’s no conspiracy. It was not a coincidence the UK were chosen & it wasn’t by any means random.

    The reason the UN committee investigated the UK is because the UN was asked to intervene by the grass-roots campaign network Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) under a monitoring mechanism known as the Optional Protocol as a response to cuts & reforms introduced by the Tory party during the previous parliament (in Coalition with the Liberal Democrats 2010-15) & with good reason.

    The Mail’s petulant response & misrepresentation of facts is regrettably typical of the agenda the disabled have come to expect from certain sections of the media. We’re seen as an easy target.

    If the government are the architects of our pain & suffering then the likes of the Daily Mail are their errand boys & deliver their vitriolic message with great gusto & fanfare, trivialising the relentless struggle of the disabled in the UK under the Tories.

    Poorly researched & irresponsible reporting typified by Mr Owen is undoubtedly motivation, if not responsible, for the surge in unwarranted & unprovoked physical assaults on the disabled.

    The headline here should not be questioning why we are the first country to be investigated by the UN. The headline, that should have been on the front page of EVERY newspaper should have been “we should be ashamed. We have been investigated by the UN!”

    Then there is the derision emanating from the new Secretary of State for Work & Pensions, the Rt Hon Damian Green MP.

    Mr Green denounces the UN report as “patronising & offensive” claiming “The UN measures success as the amount of money poured into the system, rather than the work & health outcomes for disabled people”.

    “The UK is a recognised world leader in disabled rights & equality. Not only do we spend about £50bn a year to support sick & disabled people, but we also offer a wide range of tailored & effective support, which this report fails to recognise.”

    ‘Was’ being the operative word. This government has taken disability rights back at least twenty years & people live in fear.

    No sir, your reaction is reminiscent of a scolded child. It is vulgar & quite frankly, damn right offensive. Your protests are based on a misplaced, perceived sense of injustice of which you have no justifiable right to be offended for.

    The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

    I find Mr Green’s response is in keeping with the condescending & disrespectful attitude to the disabled which lies beneath the policies borne of his department.

    In your first interview sir, once you had been made aware of this report, instead of pretending to be offended & decrying the evidence, your first words should have been to offer a profound apology for all the damage & hurt done by your party, as proven in the report.

    The government said it spent about £50bn a year to support sick and disabled people – a bigger proportion of GDP than countries including Canada, France & the US.

    But this is a flawed argument. Mr Green & the government are the only ones trying to quantify the job they do by bragging about the money they spend on it. Furthermore, spending billions doesn’t guarantee the job is done properly & that’s exactly what the report highlights. Spending isn’t enough because the measure of its success will be the results it achieves but, when you cut, cut, cut, inevitably there will be consequences.

    Dire & fatal consequences on the “health outcomes for disabled people”.

    Mr Green, if you think people losing their cars, their jobs, their homes, unprecedented reliance on foodbanks, destitution & even people taking or losing their lives are indicative of successfully supporting disabled people & an efficient way of distributing £50 billion then we have very contrasting definition of success.

    And exactly how much of this alleged £50 billion outlay does the DWP waste on maintaining an IT infrastructure that’s not fit for purpose? And I would be very interested to know exactly how much of this alleged £50 billion the DWP spend, is spent by them defending & enforcing their draconian measures (such as the bedroom tax) in court via First Tier Tribunals, Upper Tribunals & beyond.

    Mr Green is trying to defend the indefensible in government policy & the DWP. The motivation for the change in welfare is to drive down costs.

    The reality is; the skivers & malingerers you’ve portrayed us as, the disabled, has turned out to be the genuinely sick & ill & now we’re suffering as a direct result.

    Money. It’s all about money for the Tories Mr Green & always has been. Austerity is about money & clearly your government value money more than life.

    You are guilty of systematic violations of our human rights sir. Fact.

    Surely this is the nation’s shame?

    Why isn’t it disabled people in government & at the DWP implementing & overseeing government policy?

    You wouldn’t employ a government minister to work on your motor vehicle if it broke down. You need a mechanic. So why is it, it is able bodied, affluent government ministers with no medical training that are drawing up policies & dictating to disabled people how much support they need? They couldn’t be any further removed from our reality.

    In response to the committees report the government said “disabled people get the same opportunities as other people to find work, while ensuring that people who cannot work because of a disability or health condition receive the support they need”.

    Mr Green told the BBC Today on the 1st October 2016 “If you have got a condition that has made you unfit for work & which can only stay the same or get worse, it seems to me that re-testing & reassessing them doesn’t do them any good. It is also not doing the system any good because it is pointless.”

    Then on 1st November 2016 the government launched a consultation on changes to the work capability assessment & at its launch & in complete contradiction to what he said on the 1st October, Mr Green said “In the long run there is nothing more expensive than saying to someone, ‘Here’s a benefit you can have for the rest of your life & we will ignore you”.

    What he means, & what the government believe & have always believed is that work cures what ails you. Well it’s good to see the staggering ignorance, lack of empathy & the inherent party rhetoric is consistent & maintained between the appointments of Secretary of State.

    This government genuinely seem to believe that the only indication of a person’s functional capacity, potential & value is their economic productivity & the only indication of their moral worth is their capability & degree of willingness to work.

    One of the aims of the green paper appears to be to oblige many claimants in the support group to undertake work-related activities.

    So, not satisfied with their punitive measures they’ve imposed thus far to make savings that aren’t reaping the rewards they expected from welfare ‘reform’ & cuts, the government are now proposing targeting those deemed in most need of assistance with no prospect of being able to work & who have already been placed in the support group of Employment & Support Allowance (ESA), & suggested putting these vulnerable people in touch with work coaches.

    These meetings will be mandatory.

    This is in spite of what Mr Green said on 1st October, that some people on ESA with ‘severe conditions’ may not have to have repeat assessments.

    Pressure. Pressure & lies. PRESSURE!

    There is a gaping chasm between what the green paper says it will strive to do & what the government actually does in reality.

    If the government genuinely wanted to ‘help’ the sick & disabled into work, I’m certain they would not have cut the Independent Living Fund, Access to Work funding & made the eligibility criteria for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) much more difficult to meet in order to simply reduce successful claims & cut costs. This has also meant that thousands have lost their Motability vehicles & support.

    It smacks of utter hypocrisy in telling disabled people to work themselves out of poverty, work themselves healthier while cutting Access to Work etc. etc.

    In the fractured relationship between disabled people & employers, employers hold virtually all the cards & have it in their power to make a huge difference to the situation. They have so far shown little inclination to do so but, are nevertheless courted & praised through the government’s Disability Confident scheme. Meanwhile, the government piles pressure onto sick & disabled people for not striving harder to get jobs that just aren’t there & they aren’t able to get to.

    You need to reduce barriers, not benefits.

    Before piling more pressure onto disabled people to get jobs, the government needs to ensure suitable jobs exist & restore all the support it has removed that would make it possible for them to work, e.g. restore Motability cars & reverse the £4.6 billion social care cut.

    In fact, if you care to read through the government’s response to the UN committee’s report (please refer to here http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/treatybodyexternal/Download.aspx?symbolno=CRPD%2fC%2f17%2fR.3&Lang=en), it’s a work of fiction.

    To say the government have embellished their achievements in disability rights is a huge understatement. I don’t recognise or live in the disabled utopian Britain that the government refers to in their fabricated response.

    I would like to put the author on the stand as they are guilty of perjury. The report does not reflect my life; it does not reflect the reality of the life of a disabled person under this government.

    Taking someone’s car from them & in turn their independence, something they rely on & use in place of legs whilst blatantly lying to the United Nations you help the disabled into work & to stay there, is that not the nation’s shame?

    We started our own fight with the DWP two years ago with regard benefits we’re entitled to. We’ve now been trapped in the Tribunal’s process for the past year with no end in sight.

    Two years we’ve been without sufficient support we’re entitled to by law.

    Our crime? Both being disabled & daring to marry each other. Like ‘normal’ people do every day. Only my wife & I have paid a financial penalty for doing so. Being able to marry & start a family, like anyone else is free to do, is one of the pillars of the UNCRPD.

    As a result of being left to fend for ourselves in our fight with the DWP by the likes of the Citizens Advice Bureau, a law centre & our local MP, I’ve had to learn the ins & outs of the benefits system & the way the it works & quickly, in order to suitably defend us because everyone else I asked, shied away.

    I don’t fully understand the inner workings of the social security system & Tribunal procedures but, I try. There’s a lot of assumption on behalf of the system. Everyone assumes you know what you’re doing & you know how the system works, what the law is & what help you can get.

    Nobody tells you, it’s not all written in one place.

    My family & I had hoped that Tribunals would be a cathartic experience compared to the initial application, assessment & subsequent, albeit inevitable mandatory reconsideration process’.

    However, we haven’t experienced the rapturous release from purgatory we’d hoped for. Rather this tiresome & endless merry-go-round goes on & on & at what cost to our mental & physical well-being?

    You have to be stubborn & fighting fit to take on the DWP because they’re banking on you giving up. I’m at least one of those things.

    Could this be the nation’s shame? Of course not. Why should our plight resonate any more than any other disabled person? Regrettably, it’s not an uncommon story.

    Do you think when disabled claimants start out on the very long road to fight for the support they need to survive, support they are entitled to, they are remotely aware there is a clandestine network that exists to operate between Her Majesty’s Courts & Tribunals Service (HMCTS) & the DWP that they are not party to?

    HMCTS exchanges undisclosed information behind the back of the claimant with the DWP on forms identified as AT38 & AT39.

    HMCTS claims that these forms are mere cover notes & that any documentation received would be shared with all Parties to The Proceedings (PTTP).

    If the only information on these AT38 & AT39 forms that shouldn’t be shared with the claimant (appellant) is the name of the DWPs decision maker (DM), why do they deem it necessary to non-disclose this information? What have they got to hide? Why can’t people be held to account?

    People’s lives depend on the decisions made by these DMs & if they get it wrong, which appeal success rates suggest they invariably do, people consequently suffer.

    Do you think that the UN committee were aware of the existence of such forms & practise? It made me incandescent to discover them, quite by accident.

    The DWP are so determined to prevent people from getting the support they’re entitled to; they station presenting officers at the courts. I absolutely understand the DWPs right & need to be represented if the claimant attends the Tribunal but, these people are present & free to speak out on behalf of the DWP, arguing their case, regardless of whether the claimant is able to attend or not (submitted their case via papers & not present in court).

    Tribunals I might add that are only held in cities that the claimant will more than likely have to travel great distances to.

    How can this be just?

    The overriding objective of the Tribunal Procedure rules 2008 is to enable the Tribunal to deal with cases fairly & justly. Our experience is contrary to that & far from unique.

    It’s a wholly one sided system that favours the DWP & this imbalance needs to be redressed. It is not equal access to justice. It is barely justice at all.

    The DWPs plans to deploy even more staff at Tribunals in order to identify which cases they lose they can themselves appeal.

    Here’s an idea, why don’t you cut out the DMs with no medical training & the unsuitably qualified ‘healthcare professionals’ so-called employed by third party contractors, who are in the business of making money & take the word & evidence supplied by claimant’s doctors, who are familiar with their patients more than anyone & are suitably medically qualified in order to get the decisions right at the first time of asking instead.

    Or better still, actually employ doctors & the disabled you so obviously deplore.

    I just want to know & I would like to ask the prime minister to her face, what did we, the disabled, do so wrong to offend your government? Why does the Tory government hate the disabled so? Why are the disabled the ones to make up the deficit created by others?

    Don’t Tory government ministers have disabled friends or relatives?

    We didn’t put the country into debt & we had nothing to do with the worldwide banking crisis of 2008, that was unavoidable.

    I am my mum & dad’s son, I am a husband, I am a brother, I am a nephew, I am an uncle, I am a cousin, I am a friend & (hopefully) a good neighbour & I have feelings because I am human too.

    Why are the disabled not allowed to live in a reasonably relaxed state of existence without having to live in fear of ‘brown envelope syndrome’?

    We don’t want to live like kings, we just want to live. Shouldn’t our disabilities be the hardest thing in our lives we have to deal with?

    It is my understanding that the principle behind being a signed-up member of the UNCRPD would be to protect the disabled from exactly the sort of treatment we as a community are subject to in 21st century Britain.

    I lament the fact; this is the reality of life of a disabled person living under the punitive rule of the Tory elite in this country.

    The impact of the government’s cuts has been capricious & unfair. The UN report merely confirms what we as a community have known for some time – the disabled have been consigned to living a subsistence in the UK.

    The UN report is as damning as it is withering about the manner in which the government have conducted welfare & social care reform, arguing that they pushed ahead with changes even when they knew they would have an adverse impact on disabled people.

    And yet the government & Mr Green dare to sneer at the UN who, quite rightly, point out their abject failure to adhere to & honour the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities

    SHAME! SHAME! SHAME ON YOU!

    If this is not the nation’s shame, then maybe, just maybe, I have it all wrong. Maybe it is me after all. Maybe I am the nation’s shame.

    What if I, as a disabled person, am the blight on society the government & their errand boys in the media will have you believe?

    I think about removing myself from the equation. I think about it every time one those brown envelopes drop into our post box but, then, why should I? Then the government & the DWP win & I become just another statistic that they deny any link to.

    What characterises the whole welfare reform project is a lack of respect for anybody who is not making what the government considers a sufficient contribution to the economy.

    And they’re right. I’m no longer able to work or contribute to the government coffers due to a chronic, progressive & debilitating condition for which there is no treatment or cure.

    Could this be why people aren’t up in arms at the way we, the disabled, are perceived & treated & why the public aren’t outraged at the findings of the UN committee?

    Is this why there isn’t million man walking stick & wheelchair marches?

    If that’s the case, then I, disabled bloke, don’t wish to be the nation’s shame anymore.

    I apologise for being such a terrible burden, being disabled beyond my control & bringing shame on you all.

    IDB

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    #144364
    Reply To: The Nation's Shame

    Well said sir. You have encapsulated the thought and feelings of the overwhelming majority of us who are in the same position, and rightly brought our attention to the disgraceful handling of this report by our supposed representatives in parliament. It illustrates well my thoughts that I have had for some time, that we, and by “we” I mean all of us, no longer have representation. Democracy has died. My own MP has consitently failed to support me in any actions I take to improve my lot as a dsiabled person, always towing the party line, to the point where I can no longer ask for his support or help.
    More recently in the news today it is reported that the NHS is hiding proposed changes, and indeed the opportunity to comment upon them, from the general public. Refusing Freedom of Information requests. Yet another example of the secretive state, that acts to support income generation, not to support those who might actually need the services.
    As I have said before, these are the things going on behind our backs that fortunately ahve been brought out into the open. How many other matters are not being identified and have the light of public scrutiny shined upon them? I am convinced that this is not the sort of society that so many millions gave their life for in the past two world wars. Yet here we are, it now seems commonplace for our government to attack those least able to defend themselves, whilst at the same time rewarding those who make millions by hurting others also.
    I am glad that I am that time of my life that I will not have to put up with this that much longer, but I am very worried for my children and especially the one who has inherited my condition..
    If it is to be changed, as it must be, what can be done about it? By our very nature we may be fighters, but we are also not financially well supported to make large public challenges to the subterfuge going on. We are not that well known either. As a doctor said to me once, “Whats MD?”. Perhaps someone out there may be able to help turn the tide of government anger towards us.

    Mike

    So many love songs, so little love.

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    #144365
    Reply To: The Nation's Shame

    Well said sir. You have encapsulated the thought and feelings of the overwhelming majority of us who are in the same position, and rightly brought our attention to the disgraceful handling of this report by our supposed representatives in parliament. It illustrates well my thoughts that I have had for some time, that we, and by “we” I mean all of us, no longer have representation. Democracy has died. My own MP has consitently failed to support me in any actions I take to improve my lot as a dsiabled person, always towing the party line, to the point where I can no longer ask for his support or help.
    More recently in the news today it is reported that the NHS is hiding proposed changes, and indeed the opportunity to comment upon them, from the general public. Refusing Freedom of Information requests. Yet another example of the secretive state, that acts to support income generation, not to support those who might actually need the services.
    As I have said before, these are the things going on behind our backs that fortunately ahve been brought out into the open. How many other matters are not being identified and have the light of public scrutiny shined upon them? I am convinced that this is not the sort of society that so many millions gave their life for in the past two world wars. Yet here we are, it now seems commonplace for our government to attack those least able to defend themselves, whilst at the same time rewarding those who make millions by hurting others also.
    I am glad that I am that time of my life that I will not have to put up with this that much longer, but I am very worried for my children and especially the one who has inherited my condition..
    If it is to be changed, as it must be, what can be done about it? By our very nature we may be fighters, but we are also not financially well supported to make large public challenges to the subterfuge going on. We are not that well known either. As a doctor said to me once, “Whats MD?”. Perhaps someone out there may be able to help turn the tide of government anger towards us.

    Mike

    So many love songs, so little love.

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    Excellent article very well written however this paragraph via no fault of your own and just how the govt like to perceive it is wrong;

    “What characterises the whole welfare reform project is a lack of respect for anybody who is not making what the government considers a sufficient contribution to the economy.”

    This paragraph above is the line the Govt love to throw out but is not true as fact is everyone contributes to the economy and the wider society in some form or other whether that be one of the many other taxes besides to two main ones of income tax and national insurance, indeed their are literally so many taxes even a Govt minister would struggle to name them all but none the less the taxation system is geared to catch us all no matter what life you lead from tax on tampons to tax on tax from fuel yes indeed you pay fuel duty which is a high tax and then they have the cheek to add vat on that fuel duty.

    So to say we are non-contributors is grossly misleading as fact is we all are throughout our lives

    Then their are the many things citizens do in society to keep communities ticking over they do not involve money but have citizen worth whether it be putting the bins out for a neighbour or getting some shopping in for them or taking in a parcel that could not be delivered this things are small but come in the many and something governments should equally value.

    Thank you for your informative post

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    #144598
    Reply To: The Nation's Shame

    Thanks for that it should be shared

    weeble
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    #144621
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    Please, please help support this petition https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/172393

    Please sign it & re-post it all over your social media accounts & ask those that sign to re-post it please.

    I want it to get to 100,000 ASAP, with all your help.

    Thank you x

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    In their rebuttal to the claims made by government in light of last weeks damning report from the UN, Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) have pointed out that the government spend nearly less than half the amount they claim on the disabled – £28 billion, not £50 billion http://dpac.uk.net/2016/11/dpacs-rebuttal-of-damian-greens-denials-about-the-un-report/

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    The ‘government’ have cancelled my petition due to May calling a general election.

    Rather despairingly it only reached just under 18,000 signatures & I suspect that is due in no small part to the public in general not giving a hoot about the disabled.

    If they did, they would not be walking blindly into another five years of oppression from a dictatorial government for the few.

    The tories are UKIP in all but name.

    A friend said to me, he’d vote for them (the tories) rather than the traitor Corbyn as he is anti-English, his words.

    What is more treachorous than denying the most vulnerable in society the right to live?

    On another cheery note, the number of claimants getting zero points for both components of PIP has almost doubled, with no explanation for the increase.

    In the 12 months to April 2016, 93,000 claimants got zero points for both components. But in just six months after that, to October 2016, a further 83,000 claimants got zero points for both components.

    The DWP have offered no explanation for the dramatic rise, but have denied that there is any sort of crackdown on PIP awards.

    Atos and Capita, who carry out PIP assessments on behalf of the DWP, are in line to make much more than the expected £512 million from their contracts, the DWP has revealed.

    In spite of the fact that 65% of PIP appeals are currently successful and despite the growing unease even amongst MPs about the quality of PIP assessments, the two companies are making far more than expected from their contracts.

    In total, Atos and Capita were set to be paid £512 million for their first five years’ work from 2013.
    Yet they have already been paid £578 million and had their contracts, which should have run out this year, extended to 2019.

    Clearly, PIP isn’t bad news for everyone involved (courtesy of benefitsandwork.co.uk).

    It is of no surprise there is a correlation between the two, PIP awards going down, payments to atos & capita going up.

    Reward for failure & misery, even death.

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    Just a footnote, we still have one hearing yet to be heard at FtT & one to be heard at UT… it is nearing two years since we appealed the decisions.

    Unsurprisingly, I’ve been told i have high blood pressure :mrgreen: .

    You’ve gotta laugh. If I pop me clogs the DWP will deny any sort of connection :LOL: .

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    Wow!

    So sorry for your troubles. So much hassle for
    such a long time. Hope you get some good news finally.

    Thanks the statistics. They are sobering.

    Why is no one even mentioning disability issues as
    significant for the election? The media have done their
    job and sidelined the weak and vulnerable.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

    taungfox
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    on a more positive note. its nice to see you back on the forum Disabled bloke :D :wave: :D

    Cat
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    :waving:

    Good to hear from you. It is appalling that you’ve had to wait this long but sadly it’s not the only case I know of.

    Taungfox makes a good point about media and lack of mention. This is not just during election time. Local news did a good piece about it recently but I do not understand why it is not more widely reported. I volunteer as a researcher and have been working on the subject of disability benefits for the past year. There are systemic flaws in the process across PIP and ESA.

    It would be good to discuss this with you off the forum some time.

    A learning experience is one of those things that say, “You know that thing you just did? Don’t do that.” - Douglas Adams

    sar78 sar78
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    I would suggest that no one is mentioning disability in the elctions is perhaps for two reasons. Firstly there is an assoicate cost of one for or another perhaps to stay in work, or for support at home or whatever. Secondly, and almost becuase of the first, we are a group who do not represent a significant voting/purchasing route, even though I read somewhere that the combined purchasing power of disabled folk is in the billions. We cannot go on strike, we do not own large businesses, we are not “essential” to the nation’s well being like nakers or health staff. The list goes on. Despite protestations to the contrary from all quarters including MPs, we are still being discrimated against and will continue to be for many a long year. Each and every oen of us must feel that whenever they go out when looking at access to shops or even public buildings. If we were to be taken seriously by this, or indeed any , government then these problems would not exist, and persist. But they do. Billions can be found for projects to bail out banks or build the HS2 (I wonder if they will allow mobility scooters on that). But little or none to make the lives of disabled folk easier.
    I could go on and on and on. But until ALL of the political parties stop paying mere lipservice to disabled folk and their needs, we will continue to be ignored, just like I am in street surveys and sales pitches. If I am in my wheels I am ignored by all, if I am using a walking stick or two then they come at me. (Is that abenefit of being disabled?)

    Mike

    PS I tried not to be political in this

    So many love songs, so little love.

    embayweather embayweather
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    First of all, :ty: to Cat & Sar for the greetings.

    At Mike, unless we’re breaking any particular house rules I feel we all know who to aim our ire at & who is responsible for the predicament the disabled collectively face.

    So a discussion amongst adults discussing a common enemy or venting I don’t have an issue with.

    However, I don’t want to offend anyone & politics is taboo amongst friends at the best of times, if you want to stay friends that is :LOL: .

    Some genius has called the spending power of the disabled “the purple pound” & it is estimated that ten million people have that power.

    The value of our lives is measured by what the government perceive we contribute to their coffers. It is simple as that.

    They measure everything by what they spend & brag how they spend £50 billion on the disabled.

    Damien Green was keen to point out, in light of the publication of the UN report detailed above “the U.K. spends more than £50 billion a year on benefits to support disabled people & people with health conditions, which is over £6 billion more than in 2010.”

    LIAR!

    The Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS) report The changing characteristics of UK disability benefit recipients by James Banks, Richard Blundell & Carl Emmerson, published 21 May 2015 reports that spending on disability benefits at £36 billion – however, this figure includes working age out-of-work sickness benefits such as Employment and Support Allowance (ESA). ESA should not strictly be counted as a ‘disability’ benefit. This is because benefits such as Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payments & Attendance Allowance are intended to compensate for the added costs associated with having a disability whilst ESA is a benefit paid to people who are out of work because of illness or impairment (i.e. many recipients are not “disabled people” but temporarily sick). Thus, the actual figure for U.K. spending on disability benefits minus the spending on working age out-of-work sickness benefit of £7.908 billion is in reality £28.155 billion.

    The IFS study also pointed out that proportionate spending on Disability Living Allowance/Personal Independence Payment was only half what it was in 1995-96. Spending across the U.K. on disability benefits in the period 2014–15 totalled £13.5 billion. At 0.8% of national income, this is half the proportionate level of U.K. government disability benefit spending than during the period 1995–96. Overall, the number of individuals receiving disability benefits has fallen slightly since the mid-1990s yet the underlying demographic changes that have occurred in the U.K. since then would, on the IFS’s empirically-based estimates, have led to any expectation of a considerably elevated level of spending factoring in overall population growth & the ‘baby boomer’ generation now reaching older working ages.

    And they used this fictional £50 billion figure as a baton to swat away the UN report & dismiss it. No, what the government have spent the money on is a big carpet to sweep the disabled under.

    Living standards are down, food bank use is rife, they blame the problems with the NHS on immigration when in reality it is migrant workers fighting to keep it going whilst the government starve it & net migration has never been higher by the way for those concerned about that.

    There are countless organisations whose coordinated research globally will be negatively affected by students, nurses & doctors not allowed free movement & funding being cut off. Maybe someone at MD UK may or may not like to say whether research into any of our conditions would be impacted by leaving the EU & the knock-on effect.

    With out mentioning their name, the government is & has always been, strong on the weak & weak on the strong. They will have you believe they inherited all of the countries problems. Cobblers! They’ve had power for seven years & EVERYTHING has got worse, not better. For everyone with the exception of the privileged few.

    Anyone but tory.

    PS As before, these are my own views & do not necessarily reflect those of my fellow forum members or MD UK.

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    I wonder if they will allow mobility scooters on that

    In essence ‘no’, you won’t be able to use your/our scooters on it, for the same reason you can’t on any other train currently, as mobility scooters are not crash tested, like power chairs are.

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    :waving:

    It would be good to discuss this with you off the forum some time.

    That is a very kind & generous offer Sar.

    This entire business is affecting my health now as I have been left to fight these court cases on my own. My wife doesn’t understand it all & is just supportive. CAB abandoned us a long time ago & a law centre in Harrow wasn’t interested in helping.

    It isn’t straight forward & I don’t wish to & can’t discuss why here.

    It is nice to read nice things from you all. We are all in the same boat & I am sorry some of my posts are downbeat but, it helps a little to vent. I have a rage in me that has nowhere to go, I have no outlet for it. Hence, the high blood pressure I guess. I’m waiting for a district nurse to come back & check again.

    I promise you, I am not always so bloomin’ miserable despite living with ‘brown envelope syndrome’. My poor little wife would’ve left me a long time ago (and rightly so) if we didn’t both laugh at it all occasionally. It is the only way we know to deal with it. Just not always easy to crack that first joke…

    Have you ever had a beaver curry?

    It’s like a normal curry, just a little otter :rollover: .

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    I, Disabled Bloke – if you do want to chat away from here about it, it probably wouldn’t be too difficult to find me on Facebook. I think I’m friends with someone you know.

    A learning experience is one of those things that say, “You know that thing you just did? Don’t do that.” - Douglas Adams

    sar78 sar78
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    I, Disabled Bloke – if you do want to chat away from here about it, it probably wouldn’t be too difficult to find me on Facebook. I think I’m friends with someone you know.

    I don’t do ‘fiendbook’ but, I know to whom you refer, nudge wink nudge :lol: .

    :ty:

    I, Disabled Bloke
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    If you cannot vent here where can you? If it helps you, and it certainly helps me, go for it. I have found this discussion not only invigorating but I have also learned a lot too, not least of which is I am not on my own in how I feel about what is happening.

    Mike

    PS I do not do Fiendbook either, so it is good to find another suporter

    So many love songs, so little love.

    embayweather embayweather
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    That’s very gracious of you mate but, I should reign it in. For the sake of all the users here, it is not on I shove my opinions down everyone’s throats.

    Everyone has a voice & opinion of their own.

    I would like to just say, I am not pro any one party. I am just anti one & it doesn’t take a genius to work out which one. And I feel that way not purely because of the plight of the disabled, I care about all of my fellow man.

    I like to think of myself not as religious, but a humanist.

    The official position from MD UK is made clear here, impartial http://oldsite.musculardystrophyuk.org/news/news/read-about-what-well-be-doing-for-you-in-the-lead-up-to-general-election-2017/

    I understand why they wouldn’t endorse a particular party but surely they realise that the current one in power does not serve the best interests of the disabled?

    I wouldn’t make a good politician. I wear my heart on my sleeve & would happily punch far too many of ’em right up the trumpet :LOL: .

    Anyway, I’ve said too much again. I’m going to have to ask my wife to hide me keyboard :rollover: .

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