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  • #74135
    Bidet hunting :-)

    For a long time I have come to realise that to actually ‘go’ to the loo, my pelvis, feet, arms etc have to be in very exact positions to make the most of limited muscles and because of a digestive system problem similar to IBS. The height of the loo, bevel of the seat and lots of other things can either make a loo useable or not….

    Now I’m more wobbly, grips is pretty poor and I can’t really reach to wipe/wash etc it’s got the the point where we have thought blow it – let’s get one of those fancy all singing and washing bidets. So I spent hours on the net looking at the different types.

    Basically there seems to be several types of which if you want something with a remote control to operate it, you either get one of two makes of bidet seats (loo seat with bidet function that replaces your loo seat) or a toilet that is also a bidet.

    What I found is that there is nothing on the market for people who can still stand or be lifted onto their feet/supported transfer AND who need both a bidet and toilet riser. The bidet seats aren’t made to fit on anything that is not a toilet pan. However, the alternative is the full blown closamat loo where the bidet is part of the whole unit at a set height.

    We have decided to get the loo seat unit and attach it to the toilet riser with some adjusted plumbing and some hacking of the toilet riser! Good job it’s all private equipment and hubs is the engineering type.

    I was so shocked that if you buy the seat on the net it costs about £500 (give or take) and the local mobility shop was going to flog it (with demo and a fitter) for £1200 !! What a rip off! Anyone with basic plumbing ability could fit it on a standard toilet (and getting an electrician in for a day to connect a new plug socket wouldn’t cost £700!)

    Need it asap really but the main importer says it could take 10 weeks before they might get one so we may have to pay a bit more and find someone else – oh the price of feeling fresh! Don’t even know if I can balance on the seat bevel – so a bit of a gamble! If I can’t balance on it…. I might be back here looking for a buyer lol.

    criptic
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    #83406
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    It may not solve your problem, but I’ve had a Closomat with a riser fitted here for a while now, and I have to say I’d recommend it highly. Though of course it won’t meet everyone’s needs.

    petered
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    #83408
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @petered wrote:

    It may not solve your problem, but I’ve had a Closomat with a riser fitted here for a while now, and I have to say I’d recommend it highly. Though of course it won’t meet everyone’s needs.

    My OTs sugested the Cosamat for my new wetroom, are they good :?:

    Cat
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    #83407
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @catatude wrote:

    My OTs sugested the Cosamat for my new wetroom, are they good :?:

    I guess they won’t work for everyone, but the Closomat is one of those pieces of kit that I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend. I’ve had one with a riser attached for a few years now, and it’s been really good for me. If your OT thinks it would work for you, then I’d definitely say go for it!

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    #83409
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @petered wrote:

    @catatude wrote:

    My OTs sugested the Cosamat for my new wetroom, are they good :?:

    I guess they won’t work for everyone, but the Closomat is one of those pieces of kit that I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend. I’ve had one with a riser attached for a few years now, and it’s been really good for me. If your OT thinks it would work for you, then I’d definitely say go for it!

    not long had the riser on the regular loo. funny question to ask but is it nice to look at.

    does it dry too.

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    #83410
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @catatude wrote:

    @petered wrote:

    does it dry too.

    You are air blown dry !!!

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #83411
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @catatude wrote:

    @petered wrote:

    funny question to ask but is it nice to look at.

    The Look :-

    http://www.clos-o-mat.com/shower_toilets.html

    But you must watch the animation :-

    http://www.clos-o-mat.com/downloads/toilet_animation_640x480.wvx

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #83412
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    thanks taungfox

    Cat
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    #83413
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    Criptic

    Taung did the leg work and posted the closomat link. While having a nose I found the Lima loo on Closomat.com the whole loo unit rises. (good for cleaning under)

    I have the Mountway Solo Toilet Lift (see viewtopic.php?f=2&t=936&p=5314&hilit=adaptations+lottery#p5314) it rises me up and a little forward at a nice angle to standing.

    the closomat peeps seem to be involved with the chaging places loos. only one on the map for Scotland (Ikea Edinburgh), have a look to see if theres one near you.

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    #83414
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    My Colorectal Surgeon particularily recommends the ultimate luxury of the
    Geberit AquaClean 8000 (presumably he has one just for fun)

    http://www.geberit.co.uk/web/appl/uk/wcmsuk.nsf/pages/prod-aqua-line-8000p-1

    Sophisticated shower function
    Simply press the button and a spray of water at body temperature and at your chosen pressure will cleanse you gently and effectively. This is cleanliness in its most pleasant form. The Geberit AquaClean 8000plus has additional luxury features including:

    Oscillating shower
    The regular forward and backward movements of the spray of water produces particularly thorough results.

    Massage shower
    The pulsating massage shower is pleasant and relaxing and can be adjusted to suit.

    Warm-air dryer
    The most pleasant way of drying after a shower is to use the warm-air dryer, which has adjustable temperature settings.

    Personal settings
    Every user has different needs and therefore the settings of all the functions, including the position of the shower arm, the temperature and pressure of the water spray and the dryer, can be individually adjusted and saved.

    Even the DLA will not run to this. Arm, a leg and every organ to get even a downpayment on these beauties.

    I ended up with some horrid metal and plastic Smith and Nephew gadjets instead that
    sent me to hospital earlier in the year.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

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    #83415
    Re: Bidet hunting :-)

    @catatude wrote:

    not long had the riser on the regular loo. funny question to ask but is it nice to look at.

    does it dry too.

    It looks fine, in fact rather high-tech!

    We did look at the version where the whole unit rises, rather than a separate riser. I can’t exactly remember why we opted for the version with the riser instead… it may have been slightly cheaper, or it may have been the OT’s recommendation. The one potential issue with the riser is that you can’t get a shower/commode chair to fit over it, in case you ever need that (now or in the future).

    The dryer’s quite fun… blows nice warm air at you. I could do with an “all-over” one of those post-shower! It doesn’t always get you completely dry, depending a bit on how long you’ve used the water jet for. But it does pretty well. I’d recommend the hand- (or foot-) operated touch switch which is one of the optional extras, which enables you to adjust how long you use the water jet for: http://www.clos-o-mat.com/touch_sensitive_switch.html

    If you do have a Closomat fitted, don’t be afraid to get the engineer back to adjust it if it’s not quite how you want it at first. They’re usually happy to do so, and it may well need minor adjustments to suit.

    The whole thing does sometimes confuse visitors, who often can’t work out how on earth to flush it the first time they use it. There have been times when people have failed to work it out for themselves and eventually tried using the touch switch and ended up with an unexpected face wash, which always causes great joy to everyone else. Rumours that we don’t warn visitors we want to get rid of are of course exaggerated…

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